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Report on Focus Group Meeting Friday 24February 2017

Report on Focus Group Meeting Friday 24February 2017

On 24th February 2017 the Foreign and Commonwealth Office hosted a Brexit Focus Group Meeting at the Centro Cultura in La Cala de Mijas.

Brexpats in Spain were invited to put a group of around 15 people together to attend the event. Our group consisted of a cross section which included retirees, small business owners, people with families as well as our lawyers and Giles Tremlett a journalist and author who writes for The Guardian and Economist. Giles travelled down from Madrid to be with us at the meeting. Also in attendance were participants from other Expat Groups, Local Businesses as well as Local Press.

Julia Longbottom, The Director of Consular Services travelled from London to Chair the meeting she was accompanied by Gerard McGurk Consular Regional Director for Southern Europe, Charmaine Arbouin Consular Regional Operation Manager for Andalucía and Rosslyn Lloyd Vice-Consul for Andalucía. A contingent from the Department for Exiting the European Union were invited to attend but were unable to do so. It is hoped that they will attend future such events.

The Mayor of Mijas, Juan Carlos Maldonado introduced himself to the meeting confirming his ongoing support for Brexpats in Spain and the British residents in Spain.

Whilst there are still “No Answers” the meeting gave a valuable chance for concerned British Immigrants to put their Brexit worries and views directly to a face from the FCO. Subjects raised included Pension, Healthcare, and Employment, Maintaining a Business, Education, Qualifications and Family Life.

Julia Longbottom took everything she was told on board and made a firm commitment to us to take it back to London and ensure that it is disseminated to the correct areas. She reiterated that there are no answers yet. She also made a commitment to ensure these Focus Group Meeting would continue.

The one thing that was prominent at the meeting was the need for good reliable and up to date information. There are too many rumours, conflicting press reports and Chinese Whispers. This was taken on board and will be worked on to find a suitable solution.

Following the Focus Group Meeting, Brexpats in Spain gave a presentation at the La Cala Town Hall on the subject of obtaining Spanish Nationality, Wills, Inheritance and Employment.

Our Mayor of Mijas Juan Carlos Maldonado introduced himself to the meeting confirming his ongoing support for British Immigrants in Mijas, Brexpats and the work we are doing .

It was explained that the basic requirement for applying for Spanish Nationality as they stand at the moment include: –

10 years continuous Spanish Residency, to sit a written examinations in Spanish on Spanish Culture and Language as well as a Spanish oral exam/interview.

It was also further pointed out that as of this moment Spain does not allow dual nationality with the United Kingdom.

Giles Tremlett gave a briefing on the work he is doing with other groups regarding British Rights in Europe after Brexit and is actively working to ease the requirements for obtaining Spanish Nationality as well as change legislation that precludes British Nationals from holding dual nationality with Spain. Interestingly, Great Britain allows a Spanish National to hold dual Nationality with the UK.

Victoria Westhead (Lawyer) then gave a briefing on employment. Since 1993 EU Nationals have had the right to come to Spain, seek employment and work in Spain with the ability to have qualifications endorsed throughout Europe. The only exceptions to this is non Spanish Nationals are not permitted to take positions in areas such as the Police or Armed Forces.

Obviously we want to conserve our rights in Spain and work to the Spanish Government confirming this post Brexit.

Sarah Hawes explained that there has been recent changes in legislation that now give the opportunity for British Residents in Spain to change their Wills to include a clause stating that they wish to have the inheritance laws of their county of nationality applied to their Spanish Will . It should be stressed that this applies only to the rule of inheritance, Spanish Inheritance tax rules would still apply. It should also be noted that if you were to choose to take Spanish Nationality under the present rules whereby Dual Nationality with the UK is not permitted then this option would not be available.

Milada Fitzgerald reiterated to the meeting that if you live in Spain more than 183 day you are automatically deemed to be a Spanish Resident and must complete a Spanish Tax Return on which you must declare all pensions, income and interest etc. regardless of where you are receiving them. The Tax return must be completed by the end of June each year with your declaration covering the previous calendar year. Milada also reminded the meeting that Inheritance tax exists between spouses in Spain, the level of which varies dependant on region.

Brexpats in Spain President, Anne Hernández, then closed the meeting thanking everyone for their attendance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Mijas Town Register (Padrón)

The Mijas Town Register (Padrón)

We express the wish that our members who are resident here in Spain are also legal and registered with the local Padrón. The information provided at registration is confidential and protected by data protection laws.

The Padrón is a population count for a particular town such as Mijas. Officially all residents in Spain are required by law to register on the padrón, yet many still have not done so. The padrón is the way the Town Hall knows how many people live in their area without entering into investigations as to a person’s official residence status or financial affairs.

How is the Information Used?

Better public services: The Central Government allocates money to the different municipalities according to how many people are on the Padrón. Therefore, if you are not registered, your town hall is losing money for the provision of health centres / doctors, police officers, fire fighters, schools, roads, parks and gardens.

Access to benefits and social care: Once registered on the Padrón for a certain period of time, you are entitled to some income-related benefits and other aspects of social care available through social services at your Town Hall. Other benefits include discounted courses, leisure and cultural activities run by the Town Hall.

Right to vote: In order to register to vote in local or European elections, you must first be registered on the Padrón, as this is where the Census office in Malaga get their information to make up the electoral roles. If you wish to vote, make sure when you register that you ask for the form to apply to vote in electoral procedures.

Day to day life: Because this document is your official proof of address, you will need your Padrón certificate to carry out almost any administrative task, such as registering for healthcare, opening a bank account, enrolling your children for Spanish schools, registering your car with Spanish number plates or buying a car in your name, or any procedure carried out at the Traffic Headquarters etc…

Required Documents for your application

  • Original passport and photocopy.
  • If you have either your N.I.E number or Certificate of Residence, it is recommended to take this also, along with a photocopy.
  • Proof of ownership of property and a photocopy (either your title deeds or a rates receipt in your name).
  • If you do not own property and are renting, the rental contract in Spanish and a photocopy. Owner proof of being registered on the Padrón.
  • If you don’t own property and you are not renting, you have to come with the owner of the dwelling in order for him to sign the registration form authorizing you to register at the property.
  • All family members over the age of 18 have to sign the registration form in person. For minors the family book or birth certificates and passport have to be presented; the registration can be signed by parents.
Come to the Mijas Town Hall or the Branch Offices in La Cala or Las Lagunas with the above documents and the procedure will take approximately
10 minutes. You will be issued with a certificate of registration (Certificado de Empadronamiento) that will have your name, NIE number and address on it. This certificate is valid for 3 months but will be issued again upon request.
Please Note: It is very important if you leave Spain to live in another country or move to another municipal, that you go to the Town Hall and inform them so that you will be taken off the padrón.

Renewal

The Town Hall will send you a notification if and when renewal is necessary. Usually it is 2 years if you registered with a NIE certificate and 5 years if you registered with your residence certificate.

The Foreigners Department of the Town Hall in La Cala de Mijas.

Information given on this page is provided by the Foreigners Department and is available as an information leaflet

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MIJAS FOREIGNERS DEPARTMENT

Tenencia de Alcaldía de La Cala, Bulevar de La Cala 45, 29649 Mijas Costa, Málaga

Tel: 952 58 90 10, Fax: 952 58 90 11, email: frd@mijas.es

Certificate of Residence in Spain

Certificate of Residence in Spain

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It is a requirement of Spanish Law that every European Citizen spending more than three months in Spain shall obtain a Certificate of Registration as a Resident. This certificate is not valid as identification but is necessary for various matters including gaining employment. It does however include your N.I.E. identity number, which everyone living in Spain must obtain.

EU citizens will receive a Certificate of Registration in the Central Registry of Foreigners immediately on applying for it, and this will not expire. If you do not have permanent residence, ie: non-EU nationals, you will have to re-apply after 5 years of the date stipulated on your certificate.

You may obtain an appointment with a national police station either by phone on 952 197 114 (in English) or 952 198 355 (in Spanish) or by going there personally (for Mijas residents, this is situated in Avenida de los Condes de San Isidro 98, Fuengirola ).

You will advised at the meeting of any payments that will need to be paid, using form 790. The certificate will be available for collection in around 3 days, and upon presentation of the stamped 790 form(s).

N.I.E. Number (Número de Identidad de Extranjero)

If you don’t have an N.I.E. number when applying for the Certificate, they will give you one automatically – you don’t have to make a separate application. This number is issued by the immigration service to anyone living in Spain, and is used on all the usual transactions where proof of address is required, for instance, opening a Spanish bank account or registering a phone line at your property.

 

Required Documents for your application


Forms EX-18 and EX-15 are available from the National Police and from the Mijas Foreigners Department. These must be presented already filled in. The Spanish version of the forms must be presented, but they are also available for download in English, German and French. The Mijas Foreigner Department will be able to help with translation and filling out the forms into Spanish.

You can download the necessary EX-forms from the Portal for Immigration Website and the Payment Form 790 from www.mir.es.

Please note:

These .pdf forms contain editable fields and you will need Acrobat Reader, free for download from Adobe. https://get.adobe.com/reader/


You now have to fulfill the following conditions in order to become a resident of Spain:

In all cases you have to present:

1. A completed Application Form — (modelo EX-18)

2. Original passport and photocopy.

3. Payment form 790

A fee of 10,60€ will need to be paid at any bank using Payment Form 790.

4. Proof of the following:

  • Being employed as a worker in Spain.
  • Being a self-employed worker in Spain.
  • Having sufficient funds for you and your family members so that it does not mean a social burden for Spain during the period of residence. ? If you are a pensioner, this is simple, just present a Spanish bank certificate stating that you receive your pension monthly. If you do not receive your pension via a Spanish bank, you have to present the Pension Document from your country of origin stating the amount and this has to be legally translated and legalized.
  • Having medical coverage (public or private) with coverage in Spain for the period of your residence that offers the equivalent to that of the Spanish Social Security. ? If you are a pensioner, this is simple, just present your S1 (previous E-121).

To obtain your N.I.E. Number

5. Completed NIE Application Form ( Form Modelo EX-15)

6. Original Passport and photocopy.

7. Payment Form 790

A fee of 9,45€ will need to be paid at any bank on Payment Form 790.


The Foreigners Department of the Town Hall in La Cala de Mijas.

Information given on this page is provided by the Foreigners Department and is available as an information leaflet

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MIJAS FOREIGNERS DEPARTMENT

Tenencia de Alcaldía de La Cala, Bulevar de La Cala 45, 29649 Mijas Costa, Málaga

Tel: 952 58 90 10, Fax: 952 58 90 11, email: frd@mijas.es