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Resumé of the meetings at Avanto Restaurant, La Cala de Mijas and Villa Matilde, Sabinillas, Manilva

Resumé of the meetings at Avanto Restaurant, La Cala de Mijas and Villa Matilde, Sabinillas, Manilva

Resumé of the meetings at Avanto Restaurant, La Cala de Mijas and Villa Matilde, Sabinillas, Manilva  on 22 March 2018

Anne Hernández (La Cala de Mijas) – welcome and introduction to top table and a brief insight into the association BREXPATS IN SPAIN

Mayor of Mijas, Juan Carlos Maldonado – welcomed everyone and said he understood our concerns are not only financial but also personal.  He stressed his support and said he is always ready to talk to Brits.  He added that Mijas Council will continue to co-operate and support BREXPATS IN SPAIN in all they possibly can.

British Ambassador to Spain, Simon Manley – expressed his thanks to BREXPATS IN SPAIN for their transparent and honest collaboration and stressed the importance of the collaboration in helping to give genuine feedback on the concerns of the British residents in Spain.  The information received means that the government is better informed.  He also thanked mayors in Spain for their support.  He explained that in the first phase in December 2017 the terms of departure were agreed in principle on citizens rights (those already living in the EU) would be maintained and continued contributions by the UK until departure from EU.  This needs a draft treaty.  There will be a transition period to start when we leave on 28 March 2019 until end December 2020, during which time we will continue to observe the rules of the EU, but have no say in it.  He explained that there are 3 important issues – citizen’s rights, UK’s budget contribution to the EU and Northern Ireland which is a very complex issue.  The issue of our citizen rights is now advanced in the negotiations but a few areas still need to be resolved though continue to progress.

He added that the UK recognises the worries of British residents in the EU and the EU residents in the UK.  The agreement will enshrine our UK rights.

Currently negotiating mandates, with every other member states on finance, living, studying, working, education, residents, culture, research, development, trade, EU policing, security and people and these norms will continue to be observed.  EU27 mandate to be agreed on this final draft and is the basis to start negotiations.

He said that Gibraltar will apply the same transitional period – we vote as one UK and we leave as one UK but there is daily contact with Gibraltar and Andalucian government.  Some 8,000 Spanish crosses the border to work in Gibraltar

Questions from the floor –

Disenfranchised by the UK by no vote.  The movement to work in another of the EU 27 and rights to continue has not been considered.

Mr. Manley said that they have been considered.  If a working UK professional in Spain and that employment takes you to another EU27 country, then those forward movement rights will exist.  He said that lifetime rights fall on the cusp of withdrawal and the UK doesn’t want to prejudge so needs to look at other EU27 agreements.  He stated that after Brexit all rights were rejected by the European Parliament but the UK hopes to be able to push this through.

Loss of Art 32.  After consultation, he said it was on the recommendation of EU parliament and was seen as a positive move.

Pensions would continue as now throughout EU, with increases.

Voting rights.  Still, need a change in legislation.  Private members bill currently scheduled.
Comments made about UK losing track of EU citizens.  Online registration currently operational in UK.  Still, nothing definite re 15-year rule as the UK will find it difficult to track and register legitimate voters abroad but it remains as a manifesto and will be discussed.  It has to pass through the House of Commons and the House of Lords and can take 12 months so no guarantee can be made that it will be ready in time for the next UK elections.

When asked if we would still be entitled to vote in the municipal elections in May 2020 the Mayor of Mijas stated he would like everyone to have the right to vote and decided by individual agreements rather than EU law.  Spanish MEP Esteban Pons is pushing for the UK right to vote in EU elections – either with EU or bilateral agreement.  Simon Manley said that this right did not derive from EU law.  Anne Hernández said that given that it did not derive from EU law she will speak to the Councils and look to organise a campaign to ensure that we do still have this right.  Both she and Simon Manley stressed the importance of being on the padrón because it will serve as proof of our residency here prior to Brexit.

Charmaine Arbouin answered the questions on reciprocal healthcare and frozen pensions.  She said that if on S1 or paying into the Social Security or as a holidaymaker using the EHIC this will continue as now and indefinitely.  Pensions will not be frozen.  The UK government took the decision to not treat UK residents in the EU any differently to those who live outside of the EU.

Simon Manley, when asked about our inability to open UK bank accounts without a UK address, had no answer.  He was unaware of this but he and Charmaine Arbouin, British Consul to Andalucia and the Canaries, promised to investigate and feedback.

One member asked if we drop out of the EU without a deal, what will happen to us?  Simon Manley answered that we are not negotiating for that.  It is not our intention and is unlikely to happen.

A retired person (not a pensioner) asked if he would be able to take up the S1 health system when he reaches pensionable age if that occurs after Brexit.  Charmaine Arbouin assured him this is possible.

Miguel Checa, a professor at the Law College – explained that EU law remains in place until 1/1/2021.  He thinks there will be bilateral agreements – possible Swiss model?  He also thinks Spain will use veto over Gibraltar.  Mooted joint use of the airport.  He spoke at length on EU right of succession which applies in Spain on inheritances and said Brits can use a clause in their Spanish will asking for assets to be dealt with under British law.

With thanks to Judy Filmer for helping me compile these notes.

Anne Hernández

President

BREXPATS IN SPAIN

Manilva Seminar 21st April 2017

Brexit meeting in Manilva on 21st April 2017 with Brexpats in Spain, the British Consul in Spain, Local Mayors, Citizens Advice in Spain and other panel members.

Brexit Seminar in Manilva

Friday 21st April at 7pm

Order of the Meeting

7 pm – Reception

7:30 – Introduction by Dean Tyler Shelton and a few words from the Mayors of Manilva and Casares, Marion Jimenez and Pepe Carrasco

7:45 – Charmain Arbouin – British Consul to Andalucia and the Canary Isles

7:55 – Derek A Langley Andalucia Vice President British Chamber of Commerce – Spain

8:05 Anne Hernandez – President Brexpats in Spain Association

8:15 Myra Azzopardi – Citizens Advice Bureau Spain Association

8:25 – Holabank

8:35 Alex Radford – My Lawyer in Spain

8:45 Questions and Answers

8:55 Aperitif and Finger Food

 

Report on Focus Group Meeting Friday 24February 2017

Report on Focus Group Meeting Friday 24February 2017

On 24th February 2017 the Foreign and Commonwealth Office hosted a Brexit Focus Group Meeting at the Centro Cultura in La Cala de Mijas.

Brexpats in Spain were invited to put a group of around 15 people together to attend the event. Our group consisted of a cross section which included retirees, small business owners, people with families as well as our lawyers and Giles Tremlett a journalist and author who writes for The Guardian and Economist. Giles travelled down from Madrid to be with us at the meeting. Also in attendance were participants from other Expat Groups, Local Businesses as well as Local Press.

Julia Longbottom, The Director of Consular Services travelled from London to Chair the meeting she was accompanied by Gerard McGurk Consular Regional Director for Southern Europe, Charmaine Arbouin Consular Regional Operation Manager for Andalucía and Rosslyn Lloyd Vice-Consul for Andalucía. A contingent from the Department for Exiting the European Union were invited to attend but were unable to do so. It is hoped that they will attend future such events.

The Mayor of Mijas, Juan Carlos Maldonado introduced himself to the meeting confirming his ongoing support for Brexpats in Spain and the British residents in Spain.

Whilst there are still “No Answers” the meeting gave a valuable chance for concerned British Immigrants to put their Brexit worries and views directly to a face from the FCO. Subjects raised included Pension, Healthcare, and Employment, Maintaining a Business, Education, Qualifications and Family Life.

Julia Longbottom took everything she was told on board and made a firm commitment to us to take it back to London and ensure that it is disseminated to the correct areas. She reiterated that there are no answers yet. She also made a commitment to ensure these Focus Group Meeting would continue.

The one thing that was prominent at the meeting was the need for good reliable and up to date information. There are too many rumours, conflicting press reports and Chinese Whispers. This was taken on board and will be worked on to find a suitable solution.

Following the Focus Group Meeting, Brexpats in Spain gave a presentation at the La Cala Town Hall on the subject of obtaining Spanish Nationality, Wills, Inheritance and Employment.

Our Mayor of Mijas Juan Carlos Maldonado introduced himself to the meeting confirming his ongoing support for British Immigrants in Mijas, Brexpats and the work we are doing .

It was explained that the basic requirement for applying for Spanish Nationality as they stand at the moment include: –

10 years continuous Spanish Residency, to sit a written examinations in Spanish on Spanish Culture and Language as well as a Spanish oral exam/interview.

It was also further pointed out that as of this moment Spain does not allow dual nationality with the United Kingdom.

Giles Tremlett gave a briefing on the work he is doing with other groups regarding British Rights in Europe after Brexit and is actively working to ease the requirements for obtaining Spanish Nationality as well as change legislation that precludes British Nationals from holding dual nationality with Spain. Interestingly, Great Britain allows a Spanish National to hold dual Nationality with the UK.

Victoria Westhead (Lawyer) then gave a briefing on employment. Since 1993 EU Nationals have had the right to come to Spain, seek employment and work in Spain with the ability to have qualifications endorsed throughout Europe. The only exceptions to this is non Spanish Nationals are not permitted to take positions in areas such as the Police or Armed Forces.

Obviously we want to conserve our rights in Spain and work to the Spanish Government confirming this post Brexit.

Sarah Hawes explained that there has been recent changes in legislation that now give the opportunity for British Residents in Spain to change their Wills to include a clause stating that they wish to have the inheritance laws of their county of nationality applied to their Spanish Will . It should be stressed that this applies only to the rule of inheritance, Spanish Inheritance tax rules would still apply. It should also be noted that if you were to choose to take Spanish Nationality under the present rules whereby Dual Nationality with the UK is not permitted then this option would not be available.

Milada Fitzgerald reiterated to the meeting that if you live in Spain more than 183 day you are automatically deemed to be a Spanish Resident and must complete a Spanish Tax Return on which you must declare all pensions, income and interest etc. regardless of where you are receiving them. The Tax return must be completed by the end of June each year with your declaration covering the previous calendar year. Milada also reminded the meeting that Inheritance tax exists between spouses in Spain, the level of which varies dependant on region.

Brexpats in Spain President, Anne Hernández, then closed the meeting thanking everyone for their attendance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Report of our Public Meeting Fuengirola 8 Nov 2016

Report of our Public Meeting Fuengirola 8 Nov 2016

For those of you who asked for a resumé of our public meeting in Fuengirola. With credit to Bernard Forbes for this report. A downloadable .pdf can be found here

Summary of the BREXPATS IN SPAIN public meeting held on

8th November 2016 at La Casa de la Cultura, Fuengirola at 6pm

Panel

Anne Hernández President, Brexpats in Spain
Rodrigo Romero Councillor for Culture, Foreign Residents, Tourism and Events, Ayuntamiento de Fuengirola
Glyn Emerton Secretary, Brexpats in Spain
Ana Argente Solicitor, Fuengirola
Milada Fitzgerald Area Manager, deVere Spain
Dirk Simonsz Orange Estates, Fuengirola
Other BREXPATS IN SPAIN members present – Kath Emerton, Julie Payne, Diego Lopez Torres

Opening welcome and remarks –
Anne Hernández opened the meeting by welcoming all present, in particular Councillor Rodrigo Romero from Fuengirola Town Hall, and supporters of the event – Milada Fitzgerald from deVere Spain, Dirk Simonsz from OrangEstates, Ana Argente and Golden Leaves and then gave a brief introduction to BREXPATS IN SPAIN which started as a small group in Mijas with support from the Mayor of Mijas, Juan Carlos Maldonado, and had rapidly grown a much larger following online and via Facebook.

The group was formed not to challenge the result of the UK Referendum on membership of the European Union, but to actively defend the acquired rights of British ex patriots living in Spain. She explained that BREXPATS IN SPAIN is a legal association but is non-political, non-profit making and non-protest and is intelligently lobbying and debating with politicians in the UK and Spain.

So far, there had been little or no acknowledgement of the impact of Brexit on UK citizens living in the EU, and the group aimed to garner support for our specific issues. She emphasised that without the support of the UK, as had been sadly evident in that over 700,000 British immigrants had been denied the opportunity to vote in the referendum given their absence of over 15 years, it was essential that we gain the support of Spain.
With regard to debate with Spanish authorities, the importance was stressed of complying with laws regarding immigrants, in particular the requirement for residents to register on the local municipal census (the “Padrón”), and to submit tax returns if living in Spain for longer than 180 days in each year.

It was stressed that the group would probably not have answers to any issues raised until the formal negotiations begin between the UK and the EU, but were collecting issues to put forward in future lobbying and to ensure that our rights as EU citizens are not overlooked in those negotiations. We feel like a forgotten group, out of sight and out of mind and that is why it is important that we all unite and support each other, no matter how we might have (or not) voted in the referendum because the result will affect us all in exactly the same way. Also, the opinions of contributors were their own and not necessarily those of the organisation they represented.

Councillor Rodrigo Romero
Councillor Romero apologised on behalf of Ana Maria Mula Redruello, Mayor of Fuengirola, who was still at the Town Hall in a council meeting. He also advised that the event was being recorded on video and would be broadcast on Thursday 10th November 2016 at 10pm.
He went on the say that Spain and Fuengirola were fully supportive of British ex patriots in the municipality. Fuengirola was home to some 130 or more different nationalities within its 10 km2, with 6,500 Britons registered on the Padrón (and more who were not registered).
He explained that: –

  • Registration on the local Padrón (census) was a legal requirement
  • The Padrón population count affected local councils’ funding from central government
  • Fuengirola, like many other councils, gave discounts on IBI (council tax), rubbish collection and car tax bills for people on the register
  • Access to schools, health care, local authority grants and other services depended on being registered.

A true indication of the foreign resident population was important for every Town Hall, particularly when negotiating for services specific to that population.
For Fuengirola, Councillor Romero advised that the existing Foreign Residents Department would shortly be relocating from the tourist information office to the Town Hall in order to give a better service in direct contact with other council departments.
Finally, he thanked everyone for attending the meeting.

Ana Argente
Ana introduced herself and outlined her areas of legal expertise. She stressed that registering at the Town Hall is not a “choice” but a “must” and that registration was important in case of any legal problems, for example

  • Obtaining cohabitation certificates from Town Halls
  • Proving last residence in case of divorce, death, or applying for legal aid
  • Proof of permanent residence, and many more.

Anne Hernández reinforced the previous speakers’ emphasis on registering on the Padrón; if say, as in 2015, there were 56,128 British residents registered on the Padrón in the province of Málaga (Instituto de Estadistíca y Cartografía de Andalucía, tabla Población extranjera por nacionalidad y sexo: UE (Padrón), 2015), there were likely the same number again who were resident, or on extended holidays, but not registered. She added that we Brits often misunderstand the purpose of the padron. Apart from being able to vote in the local elections if we then choose to, the funding from central government pays towards improving and maintaining our roads and paths, parks and gardens, emergency services – medical, fire and police, the schools and education and, on top of that, we get discounts for being on the padron so it’s a win-win situation and most certainly doesn’t mean that Big Brother is watching us. She also added that now for certain things we cannot avoid the padron – registering a car in our name, registering with a doctor etc. She said that the next time someone complains about potholes in the road, the first response should be to ask if they have registered on the padron!

Glyn Emerton
Glyn introduced himself and expressed his passionate concern that British citizens living in the EU should be involved in the process of Brexit. He had written a letter to a senior Member of Parliament in London who was hoped could be supported, but had not yet received a reply.
The initial meetings of Brexpats in Spain had allowed the group to collate core concerns which have been submitted to the British Consulate in Málaga, hopefully to go on to Madrid and then London.
There were meetings planned on 23 November at Lux Mundi in Fuengirola, at Age Care in Calahonda on 15th November, and at Nerja Town Hall on 25th November, with more in the pipeline. There were members of the Facebook group from far and wide, Mallorca, Tenerife, Cadiz, Almeria, Alicante and more. News and dates of meetings are publicised on the website www.brexpats.es as well as Facebook BREXPATS IN SPAIN.

Milada Fitzgerald

Milada gave viewpoints as an economist and financial adviser. Brexit could mean an end to the passporting of UK financial services to the EU, freedom of movement is also likely to end. Visas to travel to the EU (Schengen area) from the UK may be needed and, after 3 months in an EU country, a residency permit would need to be obtained. Some, none, or all of these things could happen.
On pensions, nothing was really known, but it was likely that EU based recipients of UK state pensions could lose the “triple lock” and have their pension incomes frozen the same as UK pensioners living in countries outside the EU. Thus, the full state pension of £119 a week might never increase.
Private pensions are normally frozen until the recipient reaches retirement age (which could rise to 70 by 2020). One piece of good news is that Spain now has the highest life expectancy in Europe at 83 years on average.
Automatic sharing of tax information between countries came into force in January 2016.
The Double Taxation Treaty between Spain and the UK could be revoked (note this is a bilateral agreement, not EU related although there are similar treaties between the UK and many other countries).
People who spend more than 180 days in Spain each year are classed as tax resident and must submit tax returns each year in Spain irrespective of where their income is from. Tax rates in Spain are different to the UK, as are things like personal allowances. Some people end up regarded as tax resident in both the UK and Spain dependent on their circumstances.
Modulo 720 – declaration of worldwide assets – forms also have to be submitted (and updated as necessary every year).
Car tax – Spanish police have access to UK DVLA information regarding UK registered vehicles and whether the tax has been paid. UK registered vehicles are only allowed to remain in Spain for 6 months.

Ana Argente

Ana stated that she will be supporting the next set of organised presentations on social security, healthcare, employment and pensions issues post Brexit – more details when available.
At present, contributions can be made in more than one EU state, with coordination across social security systems, each country contributes proportionally to an eventual pension although each country has different rules and rates. In the event of Brexit, the UK and Spain could consider a bilateral scheme where someone who has paid contributions to both systems could continue to have a single pension paid (and taxed) in Spain.
Healthcare arrangements differ between different EU states, although systems in Spain and the UK are similar. Post Brexit, access to all but emergency healthcare, or for expensive health interventions, in Spain might require prior authorisation from the UK.
UK pensioners living in Spain currently access Spanish healthcare systems via the UK S1 Form, the UK picks up the bill. For other Spanish foreign residents, access to healthcare relates to social security status as contributors/unemployed (or as holders of residencia dated prior to 24th April 2012).
Brexpats in Spain – progress on legal status as an association

Glyn Emerton explained that the group was going through the legal process of forming an association and by 11th November should be completed.

  1. Membership would be free
  2. Data protection registration will take place before asking people to join
  3. It will continue to be a not for profit organisation, but there are costs to be covered so the group will be looking for sponsorship.

Dirk Simonsz

Dirk gave an update on the Spanish property market. Whilst tourism was well up, people’s budgets were tighter. The property market had been slowly increasing over the past three years, but the number of British buyers was falling except amongst bigger investors who were moving into Euro value investments in property.
Importantly, the rights to buy or sell property in Spain are not likely to change as a result of Brexit.
Issues raised by the audience

Padrón
Certificates are only valid for 3 months; if proof is required, a valid certificate must be provided but an up-dated certificate can easily be obtained via the Town Hall.
Registration on the Padrón lasts until you notify the Town Hall you’ve moved elsewhere, (a new Spanish borough should notify the old one). On leaving the country, you should notify the Town Hall yourself as there is no other way they would get to know until they conduct a periodic survey to check if people are still there, add new residents.
Some Town Halls offer discounts on things like the annual IBI (council tax), rubbish fees, etc., but each borough offers different discounts.

Pensions and tax
Lifetime annuity pension schemes (“renta vitalicia”) are potentially tax efficient private pension schemes, consult a financial adviser.
Sterling – Euro Exchange fluctuation: none of the panel had a crystal ball as markets were unpredictable. deVere forecasts potential for parity between the pound and the euro in the short term, but this is all dependent on “news as it happens”, an example being a rise in the value of sterling after the UK High Court decision on triggering Article 50.
With the majority of pensioners on fixed incomes, would they still have access to bus passes, day centres and other services after Brexit? Until the UK left the EU, there was no idea what might happen.
It was unlikely that changes would happen to Spanish capital gains tax which remained better for pensioners than UK capital gains tax, but as non EU citizens it could happen.
Post Brexit status
People moved to Spain from the UK as Europeans, will authorities treat people the same as before?
Councillor Romero was optimistic on this one stating that people would always be welcome in Fuengirola and in Spain, a country that loves to be open to the world and that is used to diversity. Spain respected the UK decision, but also respected the rights of immigrants in the country. Things may not be as easy, perhaps 90% of things won’t change, and he highlighted that Europe had never been as peaceful as it has been since the EU.
Spanish / Dual nationality

Since the referendum, as a possible last resource to maintaining their rights here, growing numbers of people were interested in becoming naturalised Spanish citizens. There are a number of ways of achieving this including:

  • After 10 years of continuous residence in Spain, after passing language and socio cultural exams
  • Through having Spanish parent(s)
  • Through the “golden visa” by investing 500,000€ in property in Spain
  • By marriage to a Spanish national

At present, obtaining Spanish nationality requires relinquishing one’s British nationality, but lobbying is going on to press for dual nationality status as exists between other EU member states.

Probably the first course of its kind has been set up in Mijas at The Parnell Academy to help people pass the naturalisation exams from total beginners to those with some knowledge of the language but little knowledge of the sociocultural aspect and who feel they want to better integrate by understanding cultures and traditions of their adopted country of residence.
Triggering Article 50

After the high court ruling confirming the sovereignty of Parliament, there was little likelihood that Parliament would vote against leaving the EU. There was potential for a second referendum on Scottish independence as well as questions over Northern Ireland and Gibraltar.

Closing remarks
Anne Hernández thanked the Ayuntamiento de Fuengirola, Councillor Romero and the other panel members, the sponsors and most importantly the audience for attending the debate and welcomed the invitation to return again in the New Year.
The meeting closed at 7.30pm

With enormous gratitude to Bernard Forbes, our volunteer Minutes taker.

SUR: Primeros pasos de Brexpats in Spain

SUR: Primeros pasos de Brexpats in Spain

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Unas 200 personas se reúnen en Mijas para constituir el primer colectivo que defenderá los intereses de los británicos en España.
Brexpats in Spain ya es una realidad. Una vez firmada el acta fundacional, a falta tan solo de la inscripción en el registro de asociaciones, nace, tras el Brexit, el primer colectivo que tiene como objetivo defender los derechos de los británicos residentes en España, así como informarles acerca de las ventajas y desventajas que tienen como ciudadanos en nuestro país a raíz de que el Reino Unido salió de la Comunidad Europea.

Read article on DiaroSUR website

Warm Welcome for BREXPATS

Warm Welcome for BREXPATS

Meeting held at the Tamisa Golf Hotel, Mijas Costa on 27 th July 2016.

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Our initial attendance expectation was wildly off the mark. By the morning of the meeting we had over 1400 members in our Facebook group and our estimated turnout soared from 30 – 50 attendees to an amazing 200 plus.

 

Report on the BREXPATS IN SPAIN First Public Meeting

BY GLYN EMERTON

The meeting was opened to a packed room by our President Anne Hernández outlining our vision for the BREXPATS IN SPAIN initiative. She also introduced the top table, followed by short presentations from some members of the BREXPATS team, who were joined by our special guests: the Mayor of Mijas, Juan Carlos Maldonado; from the British Consulate in Málaga, Dominic Jackson; Anette Skou and Katja Thirion from the Foreigners Department of Mijas Town Hall; and our experts on the day to cover Legal, Financial, Health and Property sectors.

BrexpatsWeb4The Mayor of Mijas, Juan Carlos Maldonado then took the floor to offer words of encouragement and to confirm the importance of the expat community in Mijas, pledging 100% support to our cause by the Ayuntamiento de Mijas. He stated that in Mijas alone there are 11,000 expats with some 65,000 in the Málaga province, adding that our economy is directly linked to our purchasing power. He made the point that Spain’s economy is directly linked to our own, and if our economy diminishes then so does Spain’s.

Mijas is behind us all the way.

Far from being here just for the sunshine, The Mayor wished to make clear that he understands our concerns in the wake of the EU referendum. Via the Junta de Andalucia and Central Government, he confirmed his intentions to promote and support our continued rights to other important benefits, such as healthcare and pensions, and considered our quality of life here should not be altered. He will endeavor to find the solutions to our problems and answers to our questions, and stated that Mijas is the pioneer in Spain to promote and support this. He concluded by saying that the Town Hall is at the disposal of BREXPATS IN SPAIN and its members, and that Mijas is behind us all the way.

The meeting was an extremely positive experience and served its purpose to welcome members.

Dominic Jackson, from the British Consulate Office in Málaga, advised that to date they understandably had no indication as to the effects of Brexit on British Nationals in Spain, but that “the Consulate Office in Málaga would work closely with BREXPATS IN SPAIN to disseminate information as it becomes available”.

As article 50 has not yet been activated and is not expected to be until early 2017, the meeting mainly focused on the need for all British expats in Spain to ensure their total legality. If we are asking Spain to welcome and support us after Brexit, it would be prudent to ensure our status in our host country be 100% legal. This requires all expats to acquire the appropriate paperwork from their local Town Hall, including NIE, Residency and registering on the Padrón. It was however acknowledged that there were many other areas of concern including Taxation, Education, Property, Wills and so on, that also need to be addressed as the process of Brexit progresses.Anette and Katja

Despite the present lack of availability of answers to the majority of concerns and questions, the meeting was an extremely positive experience and served its purpose to welcome members, introduce the team and experts and to collect those individual questions. The support and appreciation shown by those present was greatly received not only by the BREXPATS team but also by the guest speakers and experts who attended and we thanked them all for their valuable input and support.

It was our intention to circulate among our members informally but given the capacity and insufficient room to mingle, questions were invited of the top table. Some questions related to pensions, health, property, and other legal issues such as dual nationality which does not exist in Spain but is being petitioned through appropriate channels. All these questions will be dealt with personally by our experts and a general overview of the questions and answers will be posted on our website in coming weeks.

Anne Hernández announced that BREXPATS IN SPAIN are planning more formal presentations by our experts at the auditorium of La Cala de Mijas Town Hall on a variety of relevant topics, and also offered for the BREXPATS team to go out and talk informally to other British groups, club and societies. We realise that not everybody is mobile or can travel to Mijas. On that point, she also outlined our future plan to offer to set-up splinter groups in other areas and asked for volunteers prepared to dedicate a few hours to do this. It is essential that we gain the support of all of Spain because there is greater strength in numbers.


BREXPATS IN SPAIN IS YOUR VOICE                 Generous support and sponsorship for the evening was gratefully received from DeVere Spain.

 

BREXPATS FREE EVENT

BREXPATS FREE EVENT

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Our group’s first public meeting

Come along to the Tamisa Golf Hotel on 27th July at 7pm.

 

All are welcome to attend a free, informal meeting with members of the Brexpats team, as well as dignitaries and experts from our community who have pledged their support. Come and share your views, and have a drink on us!

We need your questions

Our expat community is diverse as it is large and the vote to leave the EU will affect us all in different ways. That is why we have invited you to let your views and concerns be known.

Please come along, and bring a friend. You do not need to be a member.


BREXPATS IN SPAIN is a not for-profit, non-political, legalised group set up to be a voice for British Expats in Spain. Our aim is to liaise with local and central government in Spain and UK in order to understand and impart important information of changes to legislation that may affect our status as British residents living in a EU member state. For more information, join us on Facebook. BREXPATS IN SPAIN.